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    Cocker Ear Maintenance

    Please note that I am not a veterinarian and my advice does not replace medical advice. Please ensure that anything you try, you do with the knowledge and agreement of a trusted veterinarian.

    There are several reasons that a Cocker’s ears can get inflamed and infected. If it is only once in a while, then I would suggest that the ears just need a really good cleaning. I always recommend checking your dogs’ ears every 2-3 days, even if it is just taking a quick peek inside. Inflamed ears are very easy to spot – they are dark pink or red, they have a distinct “yeast” smell (sickly sweet) and if you look closely at the skin, it looks similar to elephant skin (thickened, with a sort of hexagonal pattern). This is a classic Cocker ear infection. Typical treatment, as given by a vet, is twice daily ear cleaning and treatment with a prescribed ointment (Canaural is the one I am most familiar with). This treatment tends to be effective, however there is usually an underlying problem. As long as the underlying problem is left unresolved, the ear infections will continue. Long term ear infections can lead to hearing loss, and sometimes the dog’s ear canal becomes so thickened that ear ablation is required (extensive surgery that effectively sews the ear canal shut to prevent further infections).

    When I see a Cocker with regularly inflamed ears, I always look at the diet first. American Cockers are very prone to food allergies, especially wheat, corn, chicken and beef. Most dog foods are chicken-based, so the first challenge is finding a food without chicken (and that is not preserved with chicken fat). Once you find a good food without chicken (try duck, venison, salmon or lamb to start), you then need to ensure that there is no wheat or corn in the food. Most premium brand dog foods now have anti-allergy formulas, which use a novel protein (such as the ones listed above) and limit the typical allergenic ingredients. Typically you need to shop at a pet supply place in order to find these premium foods, they are not available at the grocery store. Some vet clinics carry hypoallergenic foods as well, but I find that often the ingredients are not as high quality as some of the private food brands.

    When you are changing a diet due to allergies, you need to keep in mind that it takes between 10 and 12 weeks for the old diet to completely clear the system and stop affecting the dog’s body. You may continue to see symptoms of allergic reactions throughout those 10 to 12 weeks. While you are switching from one food to another, it is VERY important to discontinue use of all treats and extras. The only thing the dog should be getting is the new kibble. If your dog is used to getting a treat for something, use pieces of the kibble as a treat. This is important, so that you can judge the effect of the new food on your dog’s health, without other factors coming into play. After 12 weeks, if the dog is doing well on the new food, then you can introduce some fruits and vegetables, one at a time. Introduce something one week, and wait about a week or so to see if the dog reacts. If not, introduce something else the next week. Continue on in this method until you have re-introduced the dog’s favorite snacks. If you purchase commercial treats, be sure to avoid cookies with wheat, corn, chicken or beef. It can be very difficult to find healthy treats with limited ingredients, which is why I recommend using fruits and vegetables as treats.

    Hopefully, with the change in diet, the dog’s ear infections will start to decrease, and you will notice an improvement in the dog’s body odor overall. I find that most dogs with allergies tend to have a “sweet” smell, as their body has trouble fighting off yeast overgrowth.

    Another factor in Cocker ear infections is ear cleaning. First of all, are you cleaning the ears often enough, and second of all, are you using the right cleaning solution? It seems like all ear cleaners should be made the same, but this is not the case. Many commercial ear cleaners contain alcohol, which acts as a drying agent in the ear canal. Since yeast thrives on a moist environment, the alcohol is thought to prevent yeast growth. In most cases, when ear cleaner is used infrequently, this works. However, if you are cleaning a dog’s ears every day, or even every few days, the alcohol can stimulate over production of wax, in response to being dry all the time. I prefer to use an ear cleaner that is made with natural ingredients, such as witch hazel (also a drying agent, but more gentle than alcohol), peppermint and eucalyptus. Because Cockers commonly have trouble with their ears, some years ago a special ear cleaner recipe was developed. It is called the “Blue Power Ear Treatment.”

    Spaniel Ear Cleaner Recipe
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    Ingredients:

    White vinegar
    Powdered boric acid
    Isopropyl alcohol (rubbing alcohol)
    Betadine antiseptic (or the generic version, known as Povidone-Iodine Solution)
    Please note: do not use "Betadine Scrub", use "Betadine Solution"

    Directions for mixing the solution together:

    Pour 6 ounces of isopropyl alcohol in to a plastic applicator bottle. Add 1/2 tablespoon of boric acid powder. Be careful not to get any boric acid on your skin or clothes. If you do, wash it off immediately.

    Shake the solution extremely well, until the boric acid powder is dissolved, or for five minutes, whichever comes first.

    Add 2 ounces of white vinegar. Shake the solution some more, until the boric acid powder is dissolved, or for another five minutes, whichever comes first.

    Add one teaspoon of the Betadine antiseptic, and shake it up some more. Be careful not to get any Betadine on your skin or clothes. If you do, wash it off immediately.

    The ear cleaning solution is now ready to use.

    To use the ear cleaning solution:

    It is recommended that you use the ear cleaning solution in your garage or outdoors, as the dog will shake it out of his ears and it will fly in to the air and stain things.

    Squirt the solution inside your dog's ear until the ear canal is completely full. Massage the outside of the ear to help slosh the cleaning solution around inside. Release the dog and let him shake out the ear cleaning solution from his ears.

    If you get any of the ear cleaning solution on your skin, wash it off as soon as possible.

    Be sure to shake the solution up really well before each and every time you use it. The boric acid has a tendency to settle at the bottom of the bottle. Store at room temperature.

    Use the cleaning solution daily until you start to see some improvement. Gradually cut back to once per week when you are happy with the condition of the ear. When the ear seems completely free of infection, you can go two weeks between treatments.

    Warning: Do not use this ear cleaning solution on dogs with ruptured ear drums, or on dogs with open sores or wounds in the ear area. An ear exam by a veterinarian is recommended
    prior to beginning treatment with this ear cleaning solution.

    This recipe came to you from Jim & Kellyn Zimmerlin
    www.zimfamilycockers.com

    Something else that I find helps relieve some ear itchiness in Cockers is to shave the entire inner ear flap when the dog is being groomed. Most groomers shave around the ear canal, with a circumference of about ½” in most cases. When I groom a pet Cocker, I shave the entire inner ear flap, which reduces the amount of warmth and moisture retained in the ear. This is not a scientific finding, just something that I have found to work for me.

    This is my method of treating recurring ear infections in American Cocker Spaniels. I hope it is of use and benefit to you and your dog!
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    Default Thank you for this information!

    Since I'm new to having a cocker this is good info for me to have. In the past I've used a large dropper with white vinegar/warm water solution on my big dog,he has floppy ears but not long like my spaniel. My vet approved my method.

    Wondering if you have a comment to make about this?

    I now realize the odor I noticed the first day we got her is coming from her ears. No idea what the shelter did for her ears,(except shave them down to the skin!) I'm not allowing her to go into tall grass/weeds at all.

    I'll look forward to some comments. Thanks

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    There is another website called Zim Family Cockers - http://www.zimfamilycockers.com that has an ear solution that is white vinegar mixed with Betadine rinse, alcohol and Boric Acid powder. I know it also works well, so I'm sure the vinegar/water solution is okay. I personally don't like the smell of vinegar, which is why I don't use it.

    If her ears are red and inflamed, you may need to take her to the vet for some medicated ear solution, just to get them cleared up. The change you've made in her diet should go a long way to helping her ears clear up too.
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    Update & change: Button's went to the vet yesterday & she has an ear infection. Vet made it very clear to never use vinegar/water solution! Not on cocker's anyways. She said vinegar/alcohol is OK.

    I have a tube of Gentizol to use twice per day for next 7 days. I feel badly cause I used the water & made the ear more moist. This is all new to me & I just hope I can prevent anymore ear infections.

    Also, I read all the ingredients in the VF food & big dog will finish that off & Buttons wil be getting new food today. Chicken fat is an ingredient! Luckily neither dog tries to eat the other's food so I see no issue with using different types. In fact I feel blessed they get along so well sharing toys,etc.

    I truly do feel like a newmommie,lots of info to learn & store in my brain.

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    None of us knew everything when we started Patti . . . we all had to learn this stuff too. I'm glad you had Buttons to the vet, and found the ear infection before it was too bad.

    You can print off some of these posts and put them in a folder, so that you can refer to them later. That's what I did with information I got when I first started out.
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    What Kelly says is so true. Our cockers wouldn't be in the great health they are in now if not for knowing each other and sharing information. That's what this group is all about. Sharing, the joys, problems and, of course pictures!
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    Quote Originally Posted by Polly View Post
    Pati
    What Kelly says is so true. Our cockers wouldn't be in the great health they are in now if not for knowing each other and sharing information. That's what this group is all about. Sharing, the joys, problems and, of course pictures!
    I have used the Blue Power solution on my pooches ever since getting it off the AOL board right after I adopted Maxwell. He came to me with an ear infection that didn't respond to ANY of the vet's expensive meds. Tried the gentian violet solution and he never had another ear infection! I use it once per month just for maintenance and always when I bathe them. Saved me a bundle on vet bills! Last vet told me mine had the cleanest Cocker ears she had ever seen.
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    I have to agree the Blue Power is wonderful stuff and cost efficient!!! But it sure does stain. If the weather permits I clean my girls ears withit outside.

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    Don't beat yourself up about the ear infection. BIG chance she had it when she came in.

    Blue Power is good stuff, but always check with vet to make sure the ear drum is not punctured FIRST, before using anything in the dogs ear.

    Now depending on what the problem is -- there are a few different things to consider.

    If your dog came to you with fleas (or picked up a few), there could be ear mites. It looks like coffee grinds in the ear.. brown, flaky, sort of icky and stanky. You would need a special med from your vet.

    If it's yeast, you can also try some lotrimin cream in the ear.

    Just remember to keep them as clean as you can. There are all sorts of really good ear cleaners on the market. Food does play a huge role (on a cocker) and we've never had any issues from Chicken, but sometimes beet pulp or some of the foods with chemicals in there can. Heck, it could even be from rice. They can be allergic to almost anything. Even topical or seasonal can cause a problem.

    Skin (ears) are the largest organ on the body, so that is the first place a problem will show up.

    Some like to do a slow change on food, I prefer to get them on to the new stuff ASAP, and put up with a little bit of runs or whatever, compared to them suffering longer.

    It's all trial and error unless you do the serum test, which is expensive.

    If you are going to introduce a new item to your dog (while doing the food trial), only add ONE NEW THING at a time. For instance, only add a certain treat if that's what you're trying.

    Most of the time though, a simple food change from one that has icky stuff in there, to one that has limited ingredients does the trick.

    That's one of the reasons I like to use California Natural in the beginning. It is simple, comes in several variaties, but only 4-5 main ingredients.

    For vet meds for ears, we use Tresaderm (for mites), mometamaxx for simple yeast infections and Neo-predif powder.

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    Good input all around on the ears issue, We have discoverd over the past 54 years of ownng Cocker Spaniels.. The problesm ears are simple to avoid as the base problem is poor hygene and pest control...

    I had a rescue Cocker come in a few months ago where Dr Dake spent three hours I spent 6 hours and Dr Trokey spent another three hours cleaning magots and puss and dirt out his ears. I felt like crying for him, he was a such brave boy and never once cried or snapped through the entire ordeal..

    I don't think I could have done so well myself...

    I do not ever want to see a dog with ears bad again and I am a tough cookie with my employees when it comes to ears.

    I will write an entire ear program in another post.. I am falling asleep, at the keyboard.. SO I will be back soon to complete this very important post.

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